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[zippa43]

мужыки ,чем смазать бинокль?
чем можно заменить, родную смазку которой уже нет в помине?

[Antik]

коды производителей.подглядел: http://www.trizna.ru...pic.php?t=11500

[sch]

http://panzerlehr.mo...emat-vt546.html полякен форум. посты про бинокли.

[alex1982220]

приобрел на днях бинокль 8x40 оптика Цейса , есть сетка , информацию за бинокли 8x40 практически не нашел , справа клеймо -DELACTIS и номер-1348888 и 8x40.......слевой стороны два клейма как бы объединенных в одно целое - в нижней части -СARL ZEISS JENA - а в верхней -NEDINSCO 's Gravenhage Systeem - Данную инфу пишу на случай пока не размешу фото ..... умозаключение получилось следующее - NEDINSCO- какая то контора в Нидерландах - она и по сей день вроде существует ....с Цейсовской оптикой вроде все ясно ))) , Delactis - это что то вроде названия бинокля просто , с номером 1348888- ни чего не ясно .....выпускались такие вроде в период с 1921 по 1936 гг .... поправьте где заблуждаюсь и по буду признателен за подробную инфу по данному материалу ....с Уважением Александр .

[alex1982220]

еще момент такой , что подкрашивали его где то , кто то ....

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[linnet]

"Детали для них производили на заводе в Йене, а окончательную сборку осуществлял филиал "Нединско" в Голландии - чтобы обойти запрет на производство вооружений в самой Германии."
Это цитата из статьи Бориса Давыдова и Сергея Савенко в "Мир Оружия" №3, 2005 относится к снайперским прицелам Цильфир. То же самое было и с биноклями, в т.ч. и 8х40 Делактис. Ваш экземпляр, судя по номеру выпущен примерно в 1927 году.

[alex1982220]

Это цитата из статьи Бориса Давыдова и Сергея Савенко в "Мир Оружия" №3, 2005 относится к снайперским прицелам Цильфир. То же самое было и с биноклями, в т.ч. и 8х40 Делактис. Ваш экземпляр, судя по номеру выпущен примерно в 1927 году-
А КАК ВЫ ОПРЕДЕЛИЛИ ЭТО - ну я за засшифровку номера ???? , прикрепляю клеймо , то что с левой стороны ...с Уважением Александр

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[alex1982220]

прикрепляю еще один снимок общего состояния

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[alex1982220]

кофр выглядит так .....

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[fred66]

Интересно ...НА какое время ...Война или после война ?? Что за нолики и + ...Для чяго ?

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[fred66]

.......

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[Arm.Leg.]

100% война нолик и плюс это условные обозначения, на сколько помню нолик говорит о том что внутри бинокль промазан морозостойкой смазкой. Я разбирал как то такой же и он действительно был смазан каким то составом. 

[Флик]

Василий... производитель ERNST LEITZ WETZLAR GERMANY

O – обозначает холодо устойчивою (до -40) смазку... Обозначение использовалось в 1942 г.

бинокль на войну. Отличный бинокль !

[Rusmann]

Бинокль на ВВ2 точно. ERNST LEITZ. WETZLAR
1943-44год примерно.
А маркировки "О" и "+" указывают на морозоустоичивую смазку.
Но обычно они отдельно встречаются. Вместе два знака редко.
Может, кто более сведущий сообщит, что обозначает такое соединение знаков.

[fred66]

Замечательно ..Всем спасибо ...P\S приближает ваще ...Девок рассматривать 50-100 метров ваще отлично ...

[Флик]

а вот наглазники заипёшся искать.... практически нереально....

[fred66]

а вот наглазники заипёшся искать.... практически нереально....

Если загорется моно найти ...Не проблема + есть альтернатива ...Похоже 1 в 1 ..но это секрет ...Шоб народ по заморачивался ...

[Вайс]

Уважаемые форумчане, помогите определить принадлежность данного бинокля. Относится ли он к Кригсмарине? Что обозначает буква М ?

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[Остап2010]

покажите клеймение
по виду советский бинокль 60-70-х годов

[Вайс]

клейма

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[Остап2010]

BW или NVA

[TequilaS]

Кригсмарине
смотрим здесь http://reibert.info/...ead.php?t=38848

[Вайс]

Кригсмарине
смотрим здесь http://reibert.info/...ead.php?t=38848

Сильно ,я сомневаюсь по пренадлежности бинокля к Кригсмарине. Тут на форуме было обсуждение буквы М ( найти не смог ) Может, кто поможет ссылкой.

[Arm.Leg.]

самый настоязчий кригс 

он тяжелый и латунный 

[afrikakorps]

у меня был скан книги, где на немецком говорилось что буква "m" или "M" на биноклях (если она не под орлом со свастикой))) означает metrisches gewinde... метрическая резьба, своего рода стандартизация.
я уже 200 раз говорил, что морские бинокли это 7х50 и 8х60 без надписи Diensgtlas, в основном Zeiss (blc, rln), Leitz (beh) и сxn (Busch). Было только 1500 штук морских 6х30 Zeiss! на картинке ниже.

вот тут краткий гайд по моряцким биноклям райха, тем кто не знает англицкого могут просто иллюстрации посмотреть.

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[Остап2010]

• так кто прав?
• датировка?

[prowler88]

Вот и ответ..
Показаный в начале бинокль никакого отношения к Кригсам Рейха не имеет..

[jkl]

доброго времени суток, попалась такая оптика,кто располагает информацией, помогите в идентификации премета,спасибо.

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[jkl]

фото клейм:

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[schrott]

CODE LETTERS FOR NAME OF MANUFACTURER FROM WWII GERMAN OPTICAL PRODUCTS
Compiled by Peter Abrahams from 'German Military Letter Codes', John Walter, 1996, East Sussex, Small Arms Research Publications;
and earlier, less authoritative lists.

CODE MANUFACTURER CITY COUNTRY

b e h ERNST LEITZ. WETZLAR GERMANY
b e k HENSOLDT WERK FUR OPTIK UND MECHANIK HERBORN GERMANY
b l c CARL ZEISS, MILITARABTEILUNG JENA JENA GERMANY
b m h JIRASEK (not in Walter) PRAGUE CZECH
b m j M. HENSOLDT & SOHNE, A.G. WETZLAR GERMANY
b m t C. A. STEINHEIL SOHNE, GmbH MUNICH GERMANY
b p d C. P. GOERZ, GmbH VIENNA AUSTRIA
b v f C. REICHERT VIENNA AUSTRIA
b y g JOH. WYKSEN, K.G. KATTOWITZ POLAND
b z z I.G.-FARBENINDUSTRIE, CAMERAWERK MUNICH GERMANY
c a d KARL KAHLES (telescopic sights) VIENNA AUSTRIA
c a g D. SWAROVSKI WATTENS/TIROL AUSTRIA
c a u KODAK AKTIENGESELLSCHAFT, DR. NAGEL WERK STUTTGART GERMANY
c c x OPTISCHE UND FEINMECHANISCHE WERKE, HUGO MEYER & CO. GOERLITZ GERMANY
c l b DR. F. A. WOHLER KASSEL GERMANY
c l n ED. SPRENGER BERLIN GERMANY
c r h FRANZ SCHMIDT & HAENSCH BERLIN GERMANY
c r n HANSEATISCHE WERKSTATTEN FUR FEINMECHANIK UND OPTIK, FRIEDRICHS & Co. HAMBURG GERMANY
c r o R. FUESS, formerly J. G. GREINER & GEISSLER BERLIN GERMANY
c x n EMIL BUSCH, A.G. RATHENOW GERMANY
d d v OCULUS (optometrist equipment, possibly gunsights) BERLIN GERMANY
d d x VOIGTLAENDER & SOHN, A.G. BRAUNSCHWEIG GERMANY
d k l JOSEF SCHNEIDER KREUZNACH GERMANY
d o q DEUTSCHE SPIEGELGLAS A.G. (telescopes, lenses) LEINE GERMANY
d o w WAFFENWERKE BRUNN A.G. (1943-OPTICOTECHNA GmbH) PRERAU CZECH.
d p g ADOX KAMERAWERK GmbH (cameras) WIESBADEN GERMANY
d p v ZEISS IKON A.G. DRESDEN GERMANY
d p w ZEISS IKON A.G. GOERZWERK BERLIN GERMANY
d p x ZEISS IKON A.G., CONTESSAWERK STUTTGART GERMANY
d y m RUNGE & KAULFUSS RATHENOW GERMANY
d y s HEINRICH ZEISS, UNIONZEISS K.G. ('apparently optical' BERLIN GERMANY
d z l OPTISCHE ANSTALT OIGEE GmbH BERLIN GERMANY
e a f MECHANOPTIK GESELLSCHAFT FUR PRAZISIONSTECHNIK, AUDE & REIPERT BABELSBERG GERMANY
e a w R. WINKEL GmbH GOETTINGEN GERMANY
e e d KURBI & NIGGELOH (photographic equipment) RADEVORMWALD GERMANY
e s o G. RODENSTOCK MUNICH GERMANY
e s u STEINHEIL SOHNE GmbH (telescopes & optics) MUNICH GERMANY
e u g OPTISCHE PRAZISIONS WERKE GmbH WARSAW POLAND
f c o SENDLINGER OPTISCHE GLASWERKE GmbH BERLIN GERMANY
f j t PHOTOGRAMMETRIE GmbH (aerial recon. cameras) MUNICH GERMANY
f l n FRANZ RAPSCH A.G. (sights, often subcontractor to Busch) RATHENOW GERMANY
f v s SPINDLER & HOYER K.G. GOTTINGEN GERMANY
f v x BECK & SOHNE KASSEL GERMANY
f w r OPTISCHE ANSTALT SAALFELD GmbH SAALFELD GERMANY
f x p HANS KOLLMORGEN GmbH BERLIN GERMANY
g a g F. MOLLENKOPF STUTTGART GERMANY
g k p RUF & Co., formerly CARL SCHUTZ KASSEL GERMANY
g u g UNGARNISCHE OPTISCHE WERKE A.G. BUDAPEST HUNGARY
g u j WERNER D. KUEHN BERLIN GERMANY
g w v ERNST PLANK NURNBERG GERMANY
g x l FRANKE & HEIDECKE (photographic equipment) BRAUNSCHWEIG GERMANY
g x p HOMRICH & SOHN (photographic equipment)
h d v OPTISCHE WERK OSTERODE GmbH OSTERODE GERMANY
h f o VALENTIN LINHOF OHG (photographic equipment) MUNICH GERMANY
h k m CARL BRAUN KG NURNBERG GERMANY
h n a KORELLE WERKE, G.H. BRANDTMANN & Co. (photographic) DRESDEN GERMANY
h r w HOH & HAHNE (photographic reproduction equipment) LEIPZIG GERMANY
h w t IHAGEE KAMERAWERK, STEENBERGEN & Co. (cameras) DRESDEN GERMANY
h x h A. KRUSS HAMBURG GERMANY
j f n TETENAL PHOTOWERK, Dr. TRIEPEL, K.G. (photographic equipment) BERLIN GERMANY
j f p DR. CARL LEISS BERLIN GERMANY
j n h F. TUTEMANN (lens holders & optical equipment) LUDENSCHEID GERMANY
j o n VOIGTLANDER-GEVAERT (cameras) BERLIN GERMANY
j u x NEDINSCO, NEDERLANDSCHE INSTRUMENTEN, (vehicle & aircraft instruments?) VENLO NETHERLANDS
j v e ERNST LUDWIG WEIXDORF GERMANY
j x n HELMUT KORTH BERLIN GERMANY
k h c OTTO HIMMLER (microscopes, optical equipment) BERLIN GERMANY
k l n ERNST & WILHELM BERTRAM (photographic equipment) MUNICH GERMANY
k n a DER ROBOT, BERNING & Co., K.G. (photographic equipment) DUSSELDORF GERMANY
k q c JOS. SCHNEIDER & Co., K.G. GOETTINGEN GERMANY
k r q EMIL BUSCH A.G. (assembled from foreign components) RATHENOW GERMANY
k w c GAMMA FEINMECHANISCHE & OPTISCHE WERKE BUDAPEST HUNGARY
k x v A. JACKENROLL GmbH BERLIN GERMANY
l a e HEINRICH ZEISS, UNION ZEISS K.G. GOSTINGEN
l f n REFLEKTA-KAMERAFABRIK, C. RICHTER (cameras) THARANDT GERMANY
l m q CARL ZEISS (assembled from foreign components) JENA GERMANY
l w g OPTISCHE WERKE OSTERODE GmbH (assembled from foreign components) OSTERODE GERMANY
l w w HUET ET CIE PARIS FRANCE
l w x OPTIQUE ET PRECISION DE LEVALLOIS, PARIS LEVALLOIS-PERRET FRANCE
l w y SOCIETE OPTIQUE ET MECANIQUE DE HAUTE PRECISION PARIS FRANCE
m b v I.G. FARBENINDUSTRIE, A.G.; AGFA (cameras) BERLIN GERMANY
m c a FOTOWERK, Dr. C. SCHLEUSSNER, GmbH (photographic equipment) FRANKFURT GERMANY
m t q PHOTOCHEMISCHE FABRIK ROLAND RISSE GmbH (photographic equipment) FLORSHEIM GERMANY
m t r VOIGTLANDER & SOHN, A.G. (cameras) BERLIN GERMANY
m t u A. LORENZ (MTU also used for AEG electrical equipment) GUTENFELD
m t v A. LORENZ DRESDEN GERMANY
n m s RICHARD HOLZ BERLIN GERMANY
n x t S.A.I. OTTICO MECCANICA E RILEVAMENTI AEROFOTOGRAMMETRICI
(stereoscopic aerial photography equipment) ROME ITALY
o c p AKTOPHOT GmbH (photographic equipment) PRAG-SABECHTLITZ
o c v W. KLAZAR (precision engineering; reportedly photographic equipment) PRAG
o k c HAUFF A.G. (photographic equipment) STUTTGART GERMANY
p v f C. REICHERT VIENNA AUSTRIA
r l n CARL ZEISS JENA GERMANY

A.G. = AKTIENGESELLSCHAFT; JOINT STOCK COMPANY
GmbH = GESELLSCHAFT MIT BESCHRANKTER HAFTUNG; LIMITED COMPANY
I.G. = INTERRESENGEMEINSCHAFT; UNION OF INTERESTS
K.G. = KOMMANDITGESELLSCHAFT; LIMITED PARTNERSHIP
OHG = OFFENE HANDELSGESELLSCHAFT; PRIVATE FIRM (literally, 'open trading company')


Коды Нимецьких Военных Биноклей

Dienstglas 6x30, 7x50 and 10x50 model binoculars, plus serial number and maker
Database

B:= Black
Y:= Sand Yellow (known as Afrika Korps binos)
Ba:= Bakelite
L:= Leather covering (or Vulkanite, a leahter-like early form of synthetc plastic)
R:= Rice covering (leather stand by, mixed w black paint to give a rough texture)
G:= Gummi, rubber protected (only in uboat binos)
Gr:= grey body
M:= Marked with a "M" marine
K:= Marked with a "K" for kriegsmarine or kaiser marine?
+ := Marked with a +
T:= Triangle marked
T2:= "T" marked, for lenses coating
0:= Zero/circle marked
Re:= Reticle present
Kf:= kf marked for cold resistant lubricant (marine)kalterfest

[schrott]

6x30
By Code:

beh
341561 B, R, Re, KF
348403 B, L, Re, KF,
358447 B, R, Re, black bak case

bek
11098 B, L, Re,
16521 B, L, Re, KF,
35117 B, L, Re, O 

blc
585637 B, R, + (6X24)
2151269 B, R, Re, KF
2156773 B, R,Re, Kf
2156995 B, R, Re, KF marked,
2172460 B,R,Re O

bmk
21678 B, L, Re, KF, black bak case
73908 ( or 73906) B, R, Re, KF
78609 B, L, Kf
82724 B, L, Re, KF, leather case unit mkd: S.S.T. 140 WaA 1936 thanks to Dennis White
100086 B, L,
103714 B, R, Re, O,
104298 B, R, O,
108685 B, R, O,
110697 B, R, +,
110966 B, R, Re, + black bak case, market garden area
119279 B, R+ T Blak bakelite case
125077 B, R, Re, +, T
129334 B, R, Re, T,


bmj
439250 B, L, Re, kf, black bak case, thanks to stril
439295 B, L, Re, KF, bakelit benutzer cap, black bakelite case mrked frn42
439366 B, R, Re, KF, red bakelit case,"113 " painted on top of case
448162 B, R, Re, KF red filters, benutzer cap
452388 B, L, Re, Kf, black bakelite case, tab marked 'gmr 1941', courtesy of Ed Stroh
465836 B, R, Re, KF
487430 B, R, KF,O brown bak case
488853 B, R, Re, o, benutzer cap

cad
33437 B. R,Re, + over kf,O in red

cag

4630xx (waiting for full serial number) B, R, Re, O and + on left body
3891 B, L KF,
13812 B, L, KF,
15546 B, R, KF, O, Re,
18011 B, R, RE, O out of sweden (post war stocks)
25735 B, R, Re, O, courtesy of Nathan Sanders
38995 B, R, Re +, O, courtesy of Nicolai Alexander Damm, Denmark
44518 B, R, Re,
42843 B, R, Re, O, +,
44867 B, R, +, O.
45006 B, R, Re, O, +
56199 B, R, T +
62791 B, R,
63527 B, R, T in blue
78583 B, R, T +, dble cag stamp (both bodies) bentuzer captured in italy
79167 B, R, T, O, captured By t/SGT. W. Harris of Co. E 474th Infantry Regiment in Manhay Belgium from German 2 d SS Panzer Division
80508 B, R,T, bak case mkd bek41
81543 Y, Re,
81597 Y, T, Re, North Africa provenance, II/PzArt Regt 33 (many thanks to Marci Friedrichs!)
82747 Y, T, Re
92794 Y, T, Re, post war painted black
94261 Y, T, Re,
100992 Y, T, Re,
101486 Y, T, Re,
102560 Y, T, Re,
104810 Y, T,
105728 B, Re,T
106125 Y, with brown factory camo, T, unconfirmed shipped sniper school
109226 Y, T, Re
110156 Y, Re
111399 Y, T, Re,
120697 Y, T, Re, black bak case
122812, Y, T, Re,
125870 Y, T in blue
129737 Y, T,in blue
131907 Y, T, Re,
132333 Y, with brown factory camo,Re, T, unconfirmed sniper school
133125 Y, with brown factory camo, T, unconfirmed shipped sniper school
134503 Y, T, Re,
140696 Y, T in blue, Re, red bakelite case
143155 Y, T in blue
145536 Y, T
146208 Y, T, Red bak case
147879 Y, Re, T, black bak case
148835 Y, T
148902 Y, T,
149791 Y, T, courtesy of Nathan Sanders
150679 Y, T
152272 Y, T
152667 Y, T in blue, Re, benutzer cap MC in it.
153602 Y, T, Re
154542 B, T
158359 Y, T thanks to Frederic Blais (france)
159108 Y, T Re
161113 Y, T
162082 B, R, T postwar rebuild
162188 Y, T, Re, benutzer cap,red bakelite case
162391 Y, T, black bakelite case
163178 Y, T, black bak case
167223 Y, T, benutzer thanks to anythingww2
168092 Y. T, Re
168651 Y, T,
23798 Y, T Re,
300109 Y, T,
300447 Y, T, Re benutzer cap
301615 Y,T,
302366 Y, T courtesy of Brian Abela, provenance suggest N. Africa captured
302547 Y, T,
306647 Y, T in green,
303880 Y, T, Re
306412 Y,T
307750 Y, T thanks to Frederic Blasi, (france)


clb
32010 B, L, Re, KF, mkd "Nr 32010"
32416 Y/B, L, Re, O, mkd Nr32416 strange hybrid, maybe post war repaint? 

cxnEMIL BUSCH AG, OPTISCHE INDUSTRIE, RATHENOW
201063 B, L, m (not Ml) +, stmpd 01063 on bridge, right body mkings only
294765 B, R, Re, Kf
297786 B, R, RE mkd KF
297826 B, R, Re, kf, courtesy of Michael Marshall
308488 B, R, Re, Kf,
314601 B,R, Re, O, KF, Black bakelite case
322707 B, R, Re, + black bak case
325142 B, R, O,
349046 B,R,Re, +,
382075 Ba, T in bridge front round fastener, red//brown
384156 Ba red/brown, thanks to Bram, from the netherlands
390290 B, R, Re, T,
391101 B, R, Re, T,
392290 B, R, Re, T,
406452, Ba red/brown, Re, press stoff case (marked cxn 4), courtesy of Ed Stroh
411045 Ba, Re, red/brown
428628 Ba, Re, black leather case marked WaA326 eagle
711045 Ba, red/brown

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ddx (Voigtlander)
05165 B, R +
51917 B, R, Re, Black bak case
56199 B, R, T "A" marked
61363 B, R, case Inked SS-VT Inside, top stampd "I" WaA 1936
61886 B, R, Re, T, Benutzer cap
71124 B, R, Re,
79272 B, L, KF
81976 B, R, KF, Benutzer cap,
85410 B, R, KF, dug in breslau poland
88367 B, R, Re. Kf, dug in stalingrad
95821 B, R, Re, + leather case mkd 1934
97843 B, R, Re, KF,
100254 B, R, Kf
103999 B, R, Re, "KF" marked
104600 B, R, Re, KF found in St. Vith - Sch?nberg, found in the area occupied by units of the Corps Schnee Eifel, courtesy of Hans J. Wijers
113055 B,R,O, KF MKD benutzer cap mkd cxn 1941
125959 B, R, Re, O,
142675 B,R, 0,
145901 B,R, Re, KF, O Oout of norway
149018 B, R, black bakelite case
149247 B, R, Re O,
161069 B,R, 0,Re,
171605 B, R, + brown bak case
175139 B,R, +
177668 B, R, Re, +
177886 B, R, Re +
192949 B, R, + benutzer, Strap mkd "1943 ben"
197999 B, R, Re, + Black Bak Case, out of bulgaria, "20"stamp inside 2 squares 
203641 B, R,Re, +
208146 B, R, Re, T suspected fake, serial and code seems hand stamped
222231 B, R, T benutzer cap
224271 B, R, T,
233926 B, R, T black bakelite case
233963 B, R, T, benutzer cap
234834 B, R,
241558 B, R, T, courtesy of Nathan Sanders
247330 B, R, T,
0250870 B, R, T, (experimental? [0 suffix]) serial seems hand stamped
0251580 B, R, T, (experimental? [0 suffix])
255158 Y, T, Black bak case
261368 B, R, Re T,
267795 B, R T,
270352 B, R, T,
274709 Y, T,
277115 Y, R. T
277377 Y, Inftry Rifle Regt of the 115th Inf Reg stat at Darmstadt/Hessian
277558 Y, T, benutzer
278109 Y, T benutzer cap
280897 Y, T, red bak case
282919 Y, T,
284317 Y, T,
302718 Y, T, benutzer courtesy of Nathan Sanders
303388 Y, T red bakelit case, capt in N. Africa by 8th army soldier
303914 Y, T,
3103897 Y. T (typo)
314384 Y, T, Re, benutzer, courtesy of kaiam
317729 Y, T, Re, Leather case is marked cxn WaA320 4
319288 Y, T in blue
324528 B, R,T,
326184 Y,T,
326386 Y,T
326666 B, T, color of paint appears original
326877 Y, T, lether case mkd on latch frn44
330753 Y, T, Re,
331299 Y, T, out of britain
331300 Y, T, Re
334 260 Y, T
335225 Y, T
336482 Y, Re
340739 Y, T brown bakelite case
344516 Y, T, Brown bakelite case
344859 Y, T
345012 Y,T
345254 Y, T, benutzer
351700 Y, T
354476 Y, T, captured north africa march '43 21, Btry. E. 209 Cal
354676 Y, T
354686 y, T, benutzer cap
355435 Y,T,
404920 Y, T, black postwar overpainted


dow
23700 B, L, +, black bak case
312845 B, R, Re, KF, O,
315842 B, R, Re
316686 B, R, Re, O, leather tab mkd 1942
319842 B,R,


dym
98479 B, R, Re, Kf, BLACK BAK CASE
99155 B, R, Re, Kf, Black bak case, out of norway
110888 B, R, O
114667 B;, R,O Re,
120895 B, R, Re, O, out of mediterranean front, all markings on right body
121591 B, R, Re, +,
122174 B, R,Re+ 
123109 B, Re, + benutzer cap mkd 1939

emv
3851 B, R, Re, +courtesy of Jim Mouk (UK)
14540 B,R, T, out of ukranie
233082 B,L,O
234432 B, L, O, Re

eso
224807 B,L,Re,Kf black bak case
226756 B,L, Re kf Black Bak case
232024 B, L, Re, O 1942 manufacture
232984 B, R, Re, O, black bak case mkd frn 41
358210 B, L, M, benutzer cap mkd eagle/1939

fvs Spindler & H?yer G?ttingen
129515 B, L, Re, marked WaA 380, leather benutzer cap
140710 B, L,
152670 B, R, Re, MKD fus/40/kf (UNUSUAL) strap mkd 41 blak bak case
152676 B, R, 40 over kf marked, black bakelite case, strap marked jhg 41
out of denmark
154434 B, R, Re, Kf, strap mkd 1940
159192 B,R,Re Kf, black bak case
159589 B,R,Re,Kf
173440 B, R, Re, +, courtesy of Nathan Sanders

fvx Chr.Beck & S?hne /kassel
38825 B, R, Kf marked
294676 B,R,Re

fzg
2792 B, R, Re, Kf, Black bak case, Out of norway
8637 B, R, +

gkp
1182 B, R, Re, KF, O, (Ruf & Co, Nachfolger Der Opsticher Werke), rare


rln
111601 B, R, T
113227 B, R, T, 1945 manufacture black bakelite case
113998 B, R, T
115389 G,T, Re, monocular
124843 B, T
127808 G, T
129573 B, T, with both code and manufacturer's name
153935 B, R ,T Monocular
154495 G, R, Re, T Monocular

dzl (Oigee, berlin?)
25902 B, R, Re, kf, reportedly 1944 manufacture

not marked (polizei issue?)
73073 B, R,


By maker:

Busch R.
197404 B, L,
205031 B, L, M,
211016 B, L, M, Re,
221234 B, L, M, Re,
223881 B, R, M, Re, +,
228960 B, L, Re, "M"
241854 B, L,
242751 B, Re, out of italy

Carl Zeiss jenna

1614033 B, L, m (not M) black bak case
1622651 B, L, M, Re
1644680 B,L,Re, benutzer
1645241 B, L, Re, red bakelite case
1648383 B, L, M Black Bakelite case
1648408 B, L, Re, M, black bak case
1748810 B, L, Re, M, leather case repd captured in bayeaux
1748975 B, L, M, Re,
1749197 B, L, M Re
1859764 B, L, Re, Blackbakcase,WaA202,liberated in the cologne area,courtesy of Jim Mortimer
1910763 B,L, Re black bak case, swedish post war sue, (crown mkd) maybe 19100763?
1912043 B, L, Re, black bak case, swedish crown indicating post war swedish use
1913091 B, L, Re, black bak case, swedish crown indicating post war swedish use, case stamped 1942
1914435 B, L, Re, WaA mkd,
1914456 B, L, Re, WaA 202 mkd, black bakelite case
1931585 B, L, Re, from provenance suggests "mowe" destroyer WaA
1933068 B,L,Re black bak case
1933434 B, R, Re WaA 202
1935319 B, L WaA 202 marked, benutzer cap, red bakelit case
1935332 B, L, Re, WaA 202 marked,
1939153 B, L, Re, WaA mkd
1981739 B, L, Re, mkd "marineglas"
2006981 B, L Re. WaA 202 marked benutzer cap
2010803 B, R, Re,
2011889 B, R, Re, Black bak case, benutzer cap
2014011 B, R, Re, leather Case mkd frn41
2018721 B, R, Re,
2019937 B, L, Re black bakelit case
2032579 B, R, Re, courtesy of Peter Browne
2051799 B, R, Re benutzer

E.Leitz Wetzlar
26430 B, L, Re, M
148656 B, L, Re ,M,
157294 B, R, Re
159559 B, L, Re, M,
166979 B,Ba,L,Re
208115 B, L, Re, O,
214168 B, L, M,
223281 B, L, Re, M, captured N africa, leather benutzer w/leitz logo and date stamped (1937)
245647 B, L, Re
266735 B, L, M
277967 B,L,M,
210714 B, L, Re, out of russia,
233716 B, L, Re, M
249284 B, L, Re, Blck Bak case mkd WaA100 thks to Frederic Blais, france
259536 B, L, Re, M, black bak case
260176 B. L. Re
263561 B, l, Re, 1939 mkd on benutzer cap
263870 B, L,
265791 B, L, Re, M,
266100 B, L, Re, M,
273085 B, L, M,
271347 B, L, out of latvia
296425 B, R, Re,
280284 B, L, M,
294676 B, L,.
299363 B, L, Re black bak cse, benutzer cap
310716 B, R, + rare, doubel mkd, (e. leitzwetzlar + beh)
312222 B, L, Re, mkd WaA 138 and 286 on leather re
315386 B, L, Re,
358942 B, L, Re, M,

M. Hensoldt & Sohne of Wetzlar
1861 B, L,
6725 B, L (polizei?)
8370 B, R, printed, not stamped, leather case 
16751 B, R,(reportedly truncated nr for late war prod, POLIZEI issue)
24514 B, R,
25152 B, R, same story as the one above
26063 B, L, K 6x24
210742 B, L, "m" marked
229743 B, R
229958 B, R, Re, M, strap mkd "Rudolf Stohr 1938"
235892 B, L,
257433 B, L Re,
257659 B, L, Re,KF
283067 B, R, Re, M
307115 B, L, Re, "M " marked, courtesy of K-9
327509 B, L, Re, M, WaA 414, black bak case
387341 B, L, Re, "M" Black bak case
480489 B, L, Re, mkd pol-dientglas case mkd 1942 benutzer

oigee
19977 B, R, Re, M, finnish contract? out of sweden, courtesy of Anders Kaarle


opw Warschaw
53592 B, L,

G. Rodenstock
152090 B, L, Re, M, benutzer cap
165450 B, L, Re, M
166525 B, L, M, Re, black leather case
187698 B, L, Re, M, 
195208 B, L, Re, M, Case marked "I" WaA 386

spindler & Hoyen
140520 B, L, M, T in right side, rare
140725 B, L WaA stamped
142996 B, L, M, thanks to antwerpx


Voigtlander
19557 B, R, WaA mkd
40610 B, R, black bak case
41475 B, R, Re,
42753 B, L, Re
43361 B, L, Re, benutzer, tab mkd 1942,
49434 B, R
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8x30
rln
2205779 B, T rare, courtesy of Jim Mouk (UK)
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8x40
bmk
98508 B, L, leather case
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7x50

beh
344982 B, L, KF, M,
351622 B, L, KF, T2, eagle/m, TCPII, but marked "flak (Kuste)" 
373675 B, L, KF, T2, TCPII, also eagle/M and 0565 N
375194 B, R, Re, M (marine) ,WaA 14 marked benutzer cap
378663 B, R, Re, O, KF, M,
382206 B, L, O, KF
386585 B, L, O, KF,
393378 B, R, RE Kf , O
393550 B, R, Re, KF, O, case dated 1942
393816 B, R, Re, +
398982 B, R, Re, O, +
399417 B, R, kf case mkd KSD 1942 WaA 14
406689 B, L, + bak benutzer, leather case mkd "walter winkler spandau 1941 "
429226 B, R, Re +
434334 B, Re, +
438544 B, R RE +
438965 B, R, Re, +,
444291 B, R, Re, +
445750 B, R, + benutzer , leather case mkd
445752 B, R, +
463070 B, RE, +
466771 B, R, RE, + leather case mkd ksd 1943
468920 B, Re +


blc
6110 B, R, Re, +
32167 B, R, RE, + gasmask oculars
32722 B, R, Re, Gasmask oculars
36046 B, R, dessicant cartridges on front
37730 B,R, dessicant cartridges fixed focus (smooht oculars) benutzer
40734 B, R, +, case mkd 1944
41286 B, R, RE, +
42765 B, R, Re, + Case dated 1944
43374 B, R, Benutzer cap, case stamped 1944 WaA 14
44075 B, R, Re, +in blue
50338 B, R, + Strap mkd 1944 leather case
58815 B, R, gasmask oculars fixed focus (smooth oculars)
58908 B, R, gasmask oculars for fixed focus (smooth oculars) plastic benutzer
59023 B, R, gasmask oculars fixed focus
59279 B,R, gasmask oculars fixed focus case engrqved M IV
60224 B, R, 1943 issue
60972 B, R,
2104310 B, R, O
2107447 B, R. Re,O,
2107654 B, R, Re
2137221 B, R, gasmask oculars, KM mkd leather case
2221301 B, R, Re, eagle/M Artll mkd
2222499 B, R, Re, leather case mkd WaA 202
2224487 B, R,, benutzer cap case marked eagle/M (march 1942 prod)
2227802 B, R, +, monocular
2244420 B, R + case mkd 1944
2244336 Gray w/black trim, + info courtesy of Terry
2245294 B, R, + benutzer



bmk (Srb & Stys, Prag )
93991 B, R, Re KF O case mkd 1942
95613 B, R, O, caqse stamped bmk 1942
95639 B,R,O
95906 B, L, O case mkd jr 1942
132263 B, R, T
150153 B, R, +
152700 B, R, T, Re, hinged eyecups 
154541 B, R, T, T2, case stamped 1944
154634 B, R, T, T2 hinged eyecups, benutzer
155442 Y T, no reticle, rare yellow variation courtesy of Frans, 
155745 B, R, T, leather case
160201 B,R T, elongated "T" marked
161466 B, R, T
161466 B, R, T
161663 B, R, T,
161826 B, R, T, Case dated 1943 WWII 8th Armored Division Vet Bring back
162114 B, R, T.

rln
67712 B, R,hinged eyecups
70110 B, R, gasmask oculars

By name

Leitz Wetzlar
196688 B, L, +, M
215263 B,R,M, case mkd eagle/1939
214112 B, L, M,
254335 B, L, M, (aluminum body) leather benutzer mkd 1937 WaA112
307513 B, L, M
320046 B, L, M, KF

Carl Zeiss
1684617 B, L, M,
1787040 B, L, M
1945040 B, L, M, case mkd 1944 WaA mkd .
1944875 B, L M marked, reportedly from OLT.z.See Buechl (U-97) on leave when boat sunk
1945809 B, L,M,
1965586 B, M, "T" eagle/M marked "artll 1391" case mkd 1942 and Wa 1226
1971560 B, L, Re, Eagle/M marked "Artl Nr. 782"
2059981 B, L, DF, eagle/M, T2, N 13977
2061259 B, R, gasmask oculars, eagle/M T2, "IV/I" "artl" mkd
2061515 B, R, gasmask oculars eagle/M M.A.Z.a 527, also on left side M/eagle/IV/1, T2, DF
2069773 B, R, Re, gasmask oculars T2, eagle/m IV/1 also flak (kuste) 5012 case dated 1941
2072874 B, R, gasmask oculars eagle/m artl nr 8751
2073062 B, R, T, KF gasmask oculars mkd artl 8939 case mkd 1944
2077988 B, R, DF, M (marine), N (nordsee) and "T" marked, eagle dessicant cartridges on front side, rare oculars not dienstglas marked 1940 manufacture

2074730 B, R, Re, EAGLE M IV/1 "T" D.F. Artl. Nr.9583. case mkd:M IV/1
2146111 B, R, EAGLE/M IV/1 T2 D.F. "N" nr 40265
2115198 B, R, eagle/M DF marked also"M IV/1 nr 39730"
2178623 B, R, M
2181142 B,R,Re,M gasmask oculars case mkd 1942 K60 WaA 14

unmarked
2613 B, R, Eagle/Swastika, M, KF and Right prism: N, DF 7x50, I believe these to be Srb & Stys but so far can't see bmk code 

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10x50 porro unless noted (expanded)

by code

behErnst Leitz

2213791 B, R, +
226436 B. R, Re, +,
276453 B, R, O Re, "KF" marked under code
278453 B, R, O, Re, KF marked under code
286575 B, R, O, KF marked under code
313707 B, R, Re,
331998 B,L,M,Re, KF
332165 B, R, M, KF marked under code
332336 B, L, Re, M, KF,
350808 B, R, M, KF, Re
357423 B, L Re, Kf M case mkd WaA 279 gmk41
360368 B,R,RE, KF, O
367266 B, R, RE, KF, O, case mkd 1941 named to "Walter Winkler" 
373889 B, R, Re, Kf, O, leather case
383680 B, L, kf, O,
394126 B, L, KF, O,
400541 B, R,O, Kf
400856 B, R, KF, O
411356 B, R + case is marked ksd 1944 with WaA stamp leahter post war
417777 B,R, + Case mkd ksd 1944
421067 B, Re, +, leather case dated 1943
423937 B, R, bakelite benutzer cap,
424143 B, R, + case mkd 1943 WaA14, out of Rhodes, thanks to Ozgur Budak.
424206 B,R, case mkd frn 42 made 1943
435052 B, +
435658 B, R, + case mkd eagle/M
435856 B, R, +,
437329 B, R, + black leather case, courtesy of Doug
442081 B, R, Re, +,
443049 B, R, + case marked WaA 104
451768 B, R, +, postwar green paint leather case stamp 1940 WaA 250
452759 B, R, +,,
453019 B, R, + eagle/m mkd also "1V/11" underneath the word Kustenflak"
461261 B, R,+, Re
461392 B, R, +, Re
467304 B, R, G, Case mkd 1944
468286 B, r. +, from poland
470848 B, R, Re, +
471471 Y,Re + case mkd 1944
471583 Y, Re, + unfinished late war piece



blc (Carl Zeiss Jena)
1086 B, R, Re, + case mkd 1943
3240 B, R, +
2543 B, R Re,+ case mkd 1942 WaA326
5482 B,L +
6955 B, R, Re, +
7054 B, R, + case mkd frn 41
10266 B, R +, leather case marked 1943 and WaA
12005 B, R, Re, +
14008 B, R +
14995 B, R, + Benutzer cap
15789 B, R, +
18200 B, R, +
19072 B, R, +
19123 B, R, Re + mid 1942, benutzer
20450 B,R, + case mkd 1942
22832 B,R, Re +
23199 B, R, + case dated 44
23802 B, R, +, case mkd 1943
24480 B, R +
32148 B, R, Re, + leather case mkd ksd 1944
2110525 B, 0
2158550 B, leather case stamped frn42
2180721 B, R Re O, Leather case dated 1940 Hamburg
2183008 B, R, O,
2183771 B, R,Re, O, leather case stamped 1940 carl borg, WaA 326
2183835 B, R, Re, O case mkd 1942 WaA14
2184891 B, R, Re, O,
2185917 B, R, Re, O,
2208140 B, Re,
2210568 B, R, +
2211387 B, R, Re, +, benutzer, case mkd 1942
2211508 B, R, +, Re,
2211649 B, R, Re, +,
2212210 B, R, +,
2213462 B, L, + Re
2214533 B, R, Re, +
2215004 B, R, +
2226213 B, R, + Leather lenses cap mkd V&S (Eagle) 1939
2230152 B, R, +,
2230644 Grey, R, Re, +
2231271 B, R, + (yellow overpaint ) strap mkd Sidi-Ba-Said Nth Africa 1942, J Walsh RASC
2232288 B, R, Re, +
2234736 B, R, +
2236521 B, R, +
2236878 B, R, + benutzer, leather case
224352 B, R, Dot (.) marked

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bmj

272 (roof prism) Y, R, "D.F." mkd leather case mkd bmj 1944
14355 (roof prism) Y, R,
14822 (roof prism) Y, R,
--44837 (roof prism) y, r, + case mkd 1942
485296 (Roof prism) B, L, Re
493353 (roof prism) B, L, O, leather case dated 1942
509989 (roof prism) B, L, Re, Case mkd BMJ WaA414 1942
533413 (roof prism) B, L, + Out of russia
534504 (roof prism) B, R, RE
534594 (roof prism) B, R,
539928 (roof prism) Y, R,df
545317 (roof prism) B, R, +, Case mkd bmj 1942 WaA414
547107 (roof prism) B, R, Re, +
586312 (roof prism) Y, R, + Case dated 1943
586961 (roof prism) Y, R, Re, +
-06795 (roof prism) B, L, Re,

bmk
21456 B, R, T,

cxn
352418 B, R, Re, +
362990 B, R, Re
364186 B, R, + case mkd hte 1943, benutzer 
398411 B,R,T
398948 B, R, T all markings on right body, benutzer cap, case mkd 1934
400415 B, R T
461596 B, R, T, case dated 1944
481940 B, R, Re, T, case mkd 1942 serial maybe 461940


ddx
23973 B, R, T


rln
26148 B, R, Re, case mkd 1944 WaA326," and "hje".
26301 B, R, Re, + case mkd eagle/43
27149 Gr, + case mkd WaA 320 and 194_,benutzer cap
29582 B +
30395 B,+ case mkd 1944
30570 B, + vintage black, but yellow vintage (base?) color underneath
31155 B, +
31197 B, R grey in color , +
86935 B, L, Re +
88055 B, + grey in color
89053 G, R + "U" mkd on both bridges
89626 B, + out of italy
87507 B, +
87688 B, + in blue, grey in color
88363 B, + in blue, grey in color
88400 B, R.+ Re case mkd ksd 194 WaA14 gasmask oculars
88859 Grey Body, +, leather case dated 1944
91373 B, +
91110 B and Y, Re +

by name

Carl Zeiss
2158878 B, R, (O) benutzer cap

Hensoldt wetzlar
303680 B, L, mkd "pol dienstlgas" , leather Case mkd 1937ASE
410231 B, L, Re, Case mkd 1940 (roof prism) 
472903 B,L, (roof prism) mkd also "Pol dienstglas" under serial number on hinge button (not on barrel


Leitz Wetzlar
181858 B, L Re,
194823 B, L, Re, "M" (aprox 1937?)
205848 B, L, Re, "M"
237025 B, R, Re, leather Case mkd 1939 Carl Borg Rathenow captured near Czech border 1945, info courtesy of Warren Smit
218979 B,L,Re, M leather benutzer dated 1937
219152 B, L, Re, M,
257757 B,L Re, "M"
257767 B, L, Re,"M"
258109 B, L, Re, "M"
304501 B, L, , "M"
307161 B, L, Re, M,
308526 B,R,O, "M"
308936 B, L, Re,O "M" case mkd 1942 & WaA326

Srbastys, Prag (marked so)
287424, B, R, Re, leahter benutzer cap

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kriegsmarine/uboat

beh all 7x50 unless noted
28870 B,L TCPII eagle/m
325747 B, L, TCPII, eagle/M, KF also 23040/N 
330131 B,L TCPII T2 + eagle/M
351610 B, L, TCPII, T2, KF, eagle/M, 26642/N
353603 B, L, TCPII T2, KF, Eagle/M and "23639 N"
356025 B, L, M Re, KF T2, eagle/M "artl nr 27" TCPII
356137 B, L, T2, KF, eagle/M, artl.
356821 B, L, M, Benutzercap TCPII "(T)",eagle & M marked
361034 B, KF, T2, TCPII, eagle/M, 27633/N
365926 B, R, (T) KF, eagle/M 29026/N
379065 B, L, M, KF (T) Benutzercap TCPII dessicant on ocular side, navy eagle and swastika "N" for nordsee, Marinenummer 31946 on right side reportedly 1941 manufacture, direct from germany

372649 TCPII B, R, KF and (T) marked
372734 B, L M. KF, (T) mkd , Marinenummer 30283 . N for nordsee TCPII
380315 B, L, T2, TCPII, KF, eagle/M, N 32195
380687 B, L, "T", KF, TCPII, eagle/M, 32790 N(nordsee) case mkd 1942
381441 B, R, TCPII, (T) KF eagle/M, 6393N
388871 B, R, TCPII T2 KF eagle/M, Artl. mkd
389172 B, L, TCPII, T2, KF, eagle/M 34468N
394749 B, L, Re, TCPII T2, eagle/M , artl
409231 B, L, TCPII Courtesy of Jim Mouk (UK)
409349 B, L eagle/M mkd 23013 N
409462 B, R,, "N" 8182 eagle/m mkd,
409666 B, L, TCPII,
412151 B, L, TCPII,
412154 B, R, TCPII, bakelite benutzer
415859 B, R, TCPII brown fiber case
416644 B, R, TCPII Benutzer cap porro II
421892 B, R, TCPII, All markings on left body,
422287 B, RTCPII benutzer
430544 B, Re G 8X60 TCPII 
430644 B, R, Re,G, 8X60 TCPII NZ captured at S-boot base north italy '45 tnks to mike1967a 
436489 B, R, 7x50 TCPII dessicant cartridges on ocular side
436583 B, TCPII dessicant cartridges on front
438442 B, R, TCPII dessicant cartridges on ocular side
446918 B, R, TCPII, dessicant cartridges on ocular side
450222 B, G TCPII desiccant cartridges on ocular side
450677 B, R, TCPII, Dessicant cartridges on ocular side
450706 B, R. G TCPII dessicant on ocular side
450822 b, tcpii scase mkd 1944 dessicant cartridge on ocular side
453301 B, R, G, 7X50
453655 B, R, TCPII, G, dessicant cart on ocular side
453739 B, R, G, M TCPII dessicant cartridge on ocular side case stpd 1943
453974 B,R, G,TCPII Eagle/M cartridges on ocular side L. case
454529 B.R. TCPII dessicant cartridges on ocular side
454430 B, R, G tcpII
454677 B, R, G, TCPII 7X50 dessicant cartridges on ocular side
454712 B, R, TCPII , leather case dessicant cartridges on ocular side
457389 B, R, TCPII dessicant cartridges on ocular side
457420 B, R, G, TCPII, Dessicant Filters on ocular side, Case mkd beh 1944
457643 B, G,TCPII dessicant cartridges on front
457673 B, G, TCPII, dessicant cartridges on ocular side
459468 B, R G, TCPII dessicant cartridges on ocular side
464149 B, G, R, TCPII, Dessicant cartridges on ocular sidei
468718 B, R, G, TCPII
469765 B, R, G, TCPII,
470176 B, R, G, TCPII
470185 B,G, TCPII case mkd beh 1940 eagle/m
470222 B, r, G. TCPII dessicant cartridges on ocular side case mkd 1944
473903 B, R, G, TCPII, black leather case, dessicant cartr on ocular side, provenance: from HQ 8th Air Vehicle Repair Squadron Hanau Air Depot Germany. Dated 1-15-1946, sold to Master Sgt at the Hanau Air Depot PX, info courtesy of Rob
474219 B, R, G, TCPII, dessciant cartridges on ocular side
474481 B, R, TCPII eagle/M case 1944 beh dessicant carty on ocular side
489294 B, R, G, TCPII,

blc
36454 B, TCPII, dessicant cartridges on ocular side



BLC (heavy typ)

1682 7x50 grey, Re, deck model, udf mkd (T) eagle/m 
1862 8x60 grey, Re, deck model, udf mkd (T) eagle/m 
40058 7x50 Y, G, SIF,
45156 7x50 Y, G SIF,
45841 7x50 Y, G, screw internal focus
45847 7x50 Y, G, heavy typ, ISF
45919 7X50 Heavy TyP Y, G ISF
46388 7x50 Y, ISF, heavy typ
47010 7x50 Y, G, screw internal focusing
47880 7x50 Y, G, ISF,
48268 7x50 Y, G, benutzercap screw internal focus.
48288 7X50 Y,G, ISF
48843 8x60 Y, internal screw focusing
49236 8x60 Y, internal screw focusing
49448 8x60 Y, (heavy typ) isf, hinged eyecups, cast body covers
49650 7x50 Y, G, hinged eyecups, ISF
49731 8x60 Y, ISF, hinged eyecups
49761 8x60 Y, Internal screw focusing, hinged eyepieces
52751 7x50 Y, internal screw focusing
52755 7X40 Y, G, Internal screw focusing
53108 7x50 Y (overpainted black) partual gummy , ifs.
53998 7x50 Y, G, ifs,
54011 7x50 GREY IFS, hinged eyecups lemon green paint underlayer, thanks to kteykm
55318 7x50 Y, G screw internal focusing
55589 7x50 Y, G, SIF
55983 7x50 Y, G screw internal focusing
56320 7x50 Y, G, screw internal focusing
56865 7x50 Y, G, screw internal focusing, dessicant cartridges
57155 7x50 B, G,Benutzercap, screw internal focus.
57245 7x50 Y, G, IFS, Benutzer
57611 7X50 Y, G, IFS,
58004 7x50 B, G, IFS, original yellow paint traces under black postwar painjob,
62268 7X50 Y,G, heavy typ
62300 7x50Y, G, internal screw focusing
62324 7x50 Y, G, ISF BK or KF
62496 7x50 Y, G, Internat screw focusing,
62825 7x50 Y, G ISF heavy typ
62885 7x50 Y, G Internal screw fopcusing, hinged eyecups
63000 7x50 Y, G, ISF,
63436 7X50 Y,G, Heavy typ
63532 7x50 B, G later 43 manufacture provenance suggest U453 sunk '44 off Cape spartavento
64749 7X50 Y, ISF,
64838 7x50 Y, G, ISF,
370451 8x60 Y, Re Heavy typ Isf
370465 6x60 Y, Heavy typ, cast covers image: +++++to be added later
1637141 8x60 B, R, heavy typ, eagle/m cased set from aviso grille (hitler's personal yacht)
1773633 8x60 reported fmr Graf spee captain's auctioned christies Nov. 14 of 1996 45000usd
1786348 8x60 B, R, heavy typ, eagle/m cased set from aviso grille (hitler's personal yacht) 
2083446 8X60 B, R, T2,eagle/M IV/1 MSS 392
2084511 8X60 B,R,Re, Eagle/m mkd mss 1142 TCPII
2111087 8x60 Y, IFS stamped prism covers hevy typ
2160699 7x50 Y, G, screw internal focusing
2160984 8x60 B, R, not internal focusing..conning tower uzo?
2161273 8x60 B, T2, benutzer cap
2161705 8x60 B, T2, TCPII rubber eyecups
2194269 7x50 B, (over green), heavy typ, G,hinged eyecups, ISF, benutzer
2193446 7x50 (or 17187 11 A) Y, G, screw internal focusing
2194107 7X50 Y, G, IFS,
2241538 7x50 blc B (Y underpaint) heavy typ, hinged eyecups courtesy of Laurent delaserve


cxn
426586 8x60 Y, removable oculars (hinged) heavy typ
426560 8x60, Y, ISF, hinged eyecups,  

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still not clasified will clasify later..)

blue + bmj right D.F. 10x50 tan individual focus NO SERIAL NUMBER Late war courtesy of Jim Mouk (UK)

left HENSOLDT WETZLAR 23741 right DIALYT 10x50 black, rice, individual focus, military case frn44 carried by a U.S. flyer during the war. Not commercial as no center focus courtesy of same as above

7x50 TCPII (no maker) 2408 marked 7x50M B, L
8x60 blc TCPII serial 2169882 tall

6x30 ,B, R, benutzer cap marked Pol-Dienstglas 6 x 30 108346 no makers
6X30 B,R, 2051324 NO MAKER
6X30 B, R Re hensoldt marked pol dienstglas 433117 case 1940 eagle K
6X30 B,L, BEK maker marked serial 1054....weird

dienstglas 6x30 1360 T, Y, L (leather painted yellow) "(telka" code 1939 on lenses cap marked Kassel

Hensoldt Wetzlar Dialyt 8 x 50 Y, R roof prism, marked "frn42"

bmj 7x56 serial 1499 roof prism (dyalit typ) B, L, + dienstglas marked on bridge low number
bmj 7x56 serial 528936 roof prisma B, L, Re, leather case dated 1942 WaA414
bmj 7x56 serial 530703 B, L, + in blue "bmj 1942" marked on case roof prism dienstglas marked on bridge (dyalit typ) B, L,
bmj 7x56 serial 554129 B, L, + case dated 1943 roof prism
bmj 7x56 serial 556234 B,R,

dow 8x50 911 B, R, removable (hinged) oculars (WAFFENWERKE BRUNN A.G. (1943-OPTICOTECHNA GmbH) PRERAU CZECH)

no maker, 6x30 312102 black bak case B, R,
no maker, 6x30 2051324 B, R, Re maybe polizei

bmj 578570 10x50 roof prism B,L, case m,kd eagle bmj 1943
bmj 272 (yes, just 272!!) roof prism Y, R +, DF case mkd bmj 1944
bmj 486227 10x50 B,L,Re Roof prism
bmj 493989 10x50 B, L, RE, roof prism
bmj 494023 10x50 roof prism, B, L, benutzer cap
bmj 509543 10x50 roof prism B, R, +
bmj 518869 B, L, Re, +, roof prsim benutzer tab mks 1943
bmj 529383 7x56 B, R, roof prism case mkd 1942
bmj 534679 10x50 B, R, Re,
bmj 547909 10x50 roof prism 547909 case marked frn41
bmj 567701 10x50 roof prism yellow, rice case dated 1941,
bmj 586713 10x50 Y, +
bmj 589974 10x50 Y, +, roof prismcase mkd 1944

HUET 7x50 Y, Re, TCPII mkd Kriegsmarine serial 628 
huet 10x50 tcpII B, mkd artl Kriegsmarine serial 3830
huet 10x50 screw focusing serial 4841 B,L,Re, DF artl. sliding filters TCPII
huet 10x50 tcpii serial 502, B, R,
huet 10x50 B, R Re TCPII benutzer dienstglas mkd, serial 987, in zinc lined canvas case
HUET 12x50 B, eagle/M artl df 1162689 TCPII
huet 7x50 Y, TCPII, +, serial 1279 leather case mkd "oblt. L?gler" inside the lid
huet 7x50 tcpII 1794 yellow marked kriegsmariNE dienstglas
huet 16x50 B, R, +, serial 1393
huet 12x45 2689 kriegsmarine Artl. marked TCPII B, Re,


bmj 10x40 Y, R, +

8x60 zeiss 1972479 M, B, eagle/M nr 58 w/filterszeiss sighting binos (S-boot?)

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[schrott]

фото клейм:

Бинокль 10Х50

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производитель ERNST LEITZ.   WETZLAR   GERMANY

Kf:= kf marked for cold resistant lubricant (marine)kalterfest


Защита смазки  от холода для Кригсмарине(холодо-устойчиво) 

[schrott]

Информация вдогонку:

LIST OF ZEISS BINOCULARS FROM 1894-1950 (JENA) AND 1954-1972 (OBERKOCHEN & WETZLAR)

WOLFGANG KIND AND PETER HUDEMANN; TRANSLATED AND EXTENDED BY JACK KELLY, FRED SCHWARTZMAN, AND PETER ABRAHAMS 
|FOV m/1000m |WEIGHT,gm
4 x 11| FELDSTECHER |165 |1894-1894| 340| FIRST SERIES, 36 DEGREE FIELD, LEATHER COVERED, FLAT PRISM COVERS
6 x 15| FELDSTECHER |105 |1894-1897| 390| FIRST SERIES, FLAT PRISM COVERS
6 x 15| D.F. 6X |105 |1895-1897| | OFFICERS BINOCULARS
8 x 20| FELDSTECHER | 82 |1894-1908| 430| FIRST SERIES, FLAT PRISM COVERS
8 x 20| FELDSTECHER | 90 |1904-1908| | WIDE FIELD VERSION
8 x 20| FELDSTECHER | 90 |1908-1908| | LIGHT WEIGHT METAL, LUXURY MODEL
8 x 20| RELIEFFERNROHR | 80 |1894-1906| 690| HAND HELD "SCISSORS" BINOCULARS (RABBIT EARS) STEREO RANGEFINDERS
10 x 25| RELIEFFERNROHR | 65 |1895-1908| 820| HAND HELD "SCISSORS" BINOCULARS (RABBIT EARS)
10 x 25| RELIEFFERNROHR | 65 |1895-1918| | RABBIT EARS - MADE THROUGH 1918 FOR MILITARY
8 x 20| D.F. MODEL 95 | 82 |1895-1906| 600| 36 DEGREE FIELD, LEATHER COVERED, FLAT PRISM COVERS
8 x 20| D.F. MODEL 96 | 95 |1896-1906| 620| 40 DEGREE FIELD, LEATHER COVERED, SLOPED PRISM COVERS
4 x 14| FELDSTECHER |158 |1896-1906| 370|
4 x 14| FELDSTECHER |180 |1904-1906| | FLAT PRISM COVERS, NARROW OBJECTIVE SPACING
6 x 18| FELDSTECHER |120 |1896-1906| 410| FLAT PRISM COVERS
5 x 25| JAGDGLAS |120 |1896-1906| 830| SLOPED PRISM COVERS, OBJECTIVE DIAMETER REDUCED TO 24mm AFTER 1903
7.5 x 25| JAGDGLAS | 95 |1896-1906| 810| SLOPED PRISM COVERS, OBJECTIVE DIAMETER REDUCED TO 24mm AFTER 1903
10 x 25| FELDSTECHER | 70 |1896-1906| 790| SLOPED PRISM COVERS, OBJECTIVE DIAMETER REDUCED TO 24mm AFTER 1903
12 x 25| FELDSTECHER | 60 |1896-1906| 785| SLOPED PRISM COVERS, OBJECTIVE DIAMETER REDUCED TO 24mm AFTER 1903
5-10x 25|NAVY MARINEGLAS|70,120|1896-1906|1200| TWO OCULARS ON TURRET, SLOPED PRISM COVERS, 24mm OBJECTIVE AFTER 1903
ALL FOLLOWING MODELS HAVE INTEGRAL CAST FOLDING BRIDGE, AND STRAIGHT LIDS TURNED UNDER AT RIM.
THE CODE NAME FOR TELEGRAM ORDERS BECOMES THE MODEL NAME FOR CIVILIAN MODELS.
ALL MILITARY MODELS ARE DESIGNATED D.F. (DOPPELFERNROHR) AND, UNTIL THE 1920S, HAVE A LARGE FOCUSING SCREW.
6 x 21| TELEX |120 |1907-1912| 430| HARD RUBBER REPLACES LEATHER COVERS (AFTER 1912-6x24)
6 x 21| TELEXEM |120 |1910-1912| 480| CENTER FOCUS, HARD RUBBER COVERS (AFTER 1912-6x24)
6 x 30| JAGDGLAS |150 |1907- | 660|
6 x 30| SILVAMAR | |1910-1975| | PRODUCED IN JENA THROUGH APPROX. 1975, LIGHT WEIGHT 365gm AFTER 1935
6 x 30| SILVAREM | |1910-1975| | CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF SILVAMAR
6 x 30| MARINEGLAS | |1915- | | SAME AS SILVAMAR
6 x 30| D.F. 6X30 | |1915-1940| | SAME AS SILVAMAR
8 x 24| TELACT |110 |1907-1914| 580| REPLACED BY TURACT
8 x 24| D.F. 95 | |1907-1914| | REPLACED THE EARLIER 8X20 D.F. MODEL 95
8 x 24| TELACTEM |110 |1910-1914| 630| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF TELACT, REPLACED BY TURACTEM
12 x 30| TELEFORT | 58 |1907-1920| 670|
12 x 30| TELEFORTEM | 58 |1914-1920| 700| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF TELEFORT
3 x 20| TELEPLAST |215 |1907-1911| 730| SPRENGER-LEMAN PRISM
5 x 20| TELEPLAST |113 |1907-1911| 590| SPRENGER-LEMAN PRISM
6 x 15| TELETUR |123 |1910-1924| 210| CENTER FOCUS, NARROW SPACED OBJECTIVES
7 x 50| NOCTAR |100 |1911-1919|1170| ABBE-KONIG PRISM, ROUND PRISM HOUSING
12 x 40| TELEDUZ | 61 |1912-1919| 860|
12 x 40| D.F. 12X40 | 61 |1912-1919| | SAME AS TELEDUZ
16 x 40| TELEXTIN | 44 |1912-1919| 800|
16 x 40| D.F. 16X40 | 44 |1912-1919| | SAME AS TELEXTIN
6 x 24| TELEX |120 |1912-1940| 460| SUCCESSOR TO 6x21 TELEX, 150M FIELD AFTER 1927
6 x 24| TELEXEM |120 |1912-1935| 550| SUCCESSOR TO 6x21 TELEXEM, 1936 SPORTUR IS LIGHT WEIGHT METAL VERSION
3 x13.5| TELEATER |240 |1909-1931| 210| NARROW SPACED OBJECTIVES
3 x13.5| TELEATER |240 |1911-1931| | GOLD PLATED VERSION WITH LIZARD SKIN COVERS
3 x13.5| TELEATER |240 |1919-1931| | GOLD PLATED VERSION WITH MOTHER OF PEARL COVERS
8 x 40| TELUMACT |110 |1912-1915| 810|
8 x 40| D.F. 8X40 |110 |1912-1918| | SAME AS TELUMACT
8 x 40| TELUMACTEM |110 |1914-1920| 875| CENTER FOCUS MARINE MODEL OF TELUMACT
5 x 12| STENOR |140 |1914-1927| 215| SPRENGER-LEMAN PRISM, VERY WIDELY SPACED OBJECTIVES
15 x 60| D.F. 15X60 | |1914-1915| | FOR USE WITH A TRIPOD
4 x 20| TUROL |182 |1914-1926| 280|
4 x 20| D.F. 4X20 |182 |1914-1926| | CAVALRY GLASS - SAME AS TUROL, NARROW SPACED OBJECTIVES
4 x 20| TUROLEM |182 |1914-1938| 302| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF TUROL
10 x 50| D.F. 10X50 | 87 |1914-1919|1186| PORRO I, MARINE MODEL, ROUND PRISM HOUSINGS, AFTER 1920 SAME AS DEKAR
10-18x50| BIFORT | |1914-1914| | TURRET (REVOLVING) OCULARS, NEVER SHOWN IN CATALOGS
18 x 50| TERSEX | 49 |1914-1919|1180| ROUND PRISM HOUSING
18 x 50| D.F. 18X50 | 49 |1914-1919| | MARINE MODEL PORRO I - SAME AS TERSEX
6 x 42| D.F. 6X42 |160 |1915-1918| 940| NEVER OFFERED IN CIVILIAN VERSION
7 x 50| D.F. 7X50 |128 |1915-1945|1160| NAVY MODEL, SAME AS BINOCTAR
6 x 39| D.F. 08 | 77 |1915-1918| 560| GALILEAN, PRIMARY FIELD GLASS FOR ENLISTED SOLDIERS IN WWI
8 x 24| TURACT |110 |1914-1933| 450| SUCCESSOR TO TELACT
8 x 24| TURACTEM |110 |1914-1932| 522| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF TURACT, SUCCESSOR TO TELACTEM
6 x 21| TUREX |145 |1914-1920| 312| NARROW SPACED OBJECTIVES
6 x 21| TUREXEM |145 |1914-1924| 355| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF TUREX
4 x 42| | |1916-1916| | SPECIAL MILITARY MODEL, FORM SIMILAR TO DELACTIS
12 x 50| D.F. 12X50 | 72 |1917-1919|1280| ABBE-KONIG PRISM - FORM SIMILAR TO NOCTAR
18 x 50| DELFORT | 49 |1919-1930|1180| PORRO II
7 x 50| BINOCTAR |128 |1919-1971|1160| 1937, 830gm LIGHT WEIGHT METAL VERSION
7 x 50| D.F. 7X50 |128 |1915-1990| | SAME AS BINOCTAR
8 x 40| TELECTO |110 |1919-1922|1090|
12 x 40| TELONAR | 75 |1919-1935|1100|
12 x 40| D.F. 12X40 | 75 |1919-1940| | SAME AS TELONAR
16 x 40| TELSEXOR | 55 |1919-1932|1120|
8 x 30| DELTRENTIS |154 |1920-1990| 702| 1928, 390gm VERSION
8 x 30| DELTRINTEM |154 |1920-1990| 742| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF DELTRENTIS, 400gm VERSION IN 1928
10 x 50| DEKAR | 87 |1920-1930|1186| ABBE-KONIG PRISM, DIFFERENT DESIGN THAN LATER DEKARIS
8 x 21| TURMON |110 |1921-1990| 100| FOLDING MONOCULAR
8 x 40| DELACTIS |154 |1921-1936|1090| WIDE FIELD
8 x 24| DELTURIS |154 |1921-1931| 560| TWO VERSIONS, OLDER WITH THICKER PRISM HOUSING
8 x 24| DELTURISEM |154 |1923-1931| 570| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF DELTURIS
2.5 x 34| GALAN |210 |1924-1934| 215| GALILEAN OPERA GLASSES AVAILABLE IN 3 INTEROCULAR WIDTHS
6 x 18| TELITA I |145 |1923-1926| 280| MOLLER PRISM - PAINTED FINISH
6 x 18| TELITA II |145 |1927-1943| 280| MOLLER PRISM - LEATHER COVERED
5 x 12| STENOTAR |145 |1925-1928| 130| SPRENGER-LEMAN PRISM
8 x 60| D.F. 8X60 |154 |1924-1928|4900| PORRO II
4 x 20| D.F. 4X20 |250 |1927-1928| 820| PORRO II, NAVY - SPECIAL AND RARE
8 x 24| TURITA |110 |1928-1943| 425| MOLLER PRISM, FLAT FORM
3.5 x 15| THEATIS |192 |1929-1980| 165| SPRENGER-LEMAN PRISM, MADE IN JENA UNTIL 1980
3.5 x 15| THEATIS |192 |1934-1980| | SPRENGER-LEMAN PRISM - GOLD PLATED LUXURY MODEL
10 x 50| DEKARIS |128 |1929-1990|1200| 1936, 860gm VERSION
10 x 50| DEKAREM |128 |1931-1990|1350| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF DEKARIS; 1936, 890gm VERSION
8 x 40| DELACTEM |154 |1931-1943|1200| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF DELACTIS - NOT SOLD COMMERCIALLY AFTER 1938
7 x 50| BINOCTEM |128 |1931-1990|1300| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF BINOCTAR; 1937, 860gm VERSION
18 x 50| TELAR | 65 |1931-1940|1200| PORRO I, LIGHT WEIGHT METAL
18 x 50| TELAREM | 65 |1936-1943| 875| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF TELAR
6 x 24| SPORTUR |150 |1936-1943| 330| LIGHT WEIGHT METAL SUCCESSOR TO TELEXEM
8 x 40| DELTAR |198 |1937-1939| 950| SUPER WIDE ANGLE FOR AERIAL OBSERVATION
8 x 40| DELTAREM |198 |1937-1943|1000| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF DELTAR
8 x 40| D.F. 8X40 | |1937-1943| | SAME AS DELTAR
7 x 50H| SEPTAREM |128 |1938-1939| 900| CENTER FOCUS SEPTAR, PORRO II, OCULAR FIELD LENS CEMENTED TO PRISM
7 x 50H| SEPTAR |128 |1938-1939| | PORRO II, OCULAR FIELD LENS CEMENTED TO PRISM
7 x 50H| D.F. |128 |1938-1945|1000| SAME AS SEPTAR, PORRO II, FOR ARMY AND NAVY, LENS CEMENTED TO PRISM
7 x 50H| D.F. |128 |1939-1945|~860| SAME AS SEPTAR, PORRO II - MANY VARIANTS FOR VARIOUS MILITARY GROUPS
7 x 50| |128 |1938-1945|1750| U-BOAT BINOCULAR WITH ONE PIECE CAST HOUSINGS AND INTERNAL FOCUS
8 x 60HT| D.F. |153 |1938-1941|1875| PORRO II, WITH OCULAR FIELD LENS CEMENTED TO PRISM
12 x 50| | 99 | |1010|
8 x 60T| |~160|1942-1945|2400| PORRO II , KRIEGSMARINE, MARKED blc
8 x 60| |~160|1943-1945|2500| U-BOAT WITH ONE PIECE CAST HOUSINGS AND INTERNAL FOCUS
15 x 60| DELFORTEM | 81 |1940-1943|1280| CENTER FOCUS VERSION OF DELFORT
15 x 50| PENTEKAR | 81 |1950- |1060| FIRST POSTWAR DESIGN FROM JENA
15 x 50| PENTEKAREM | 81 |1950- | | CF VERSION OF PENTEKAR
MODELS FROM OBERKOCHEN AND WETZLAR UNTIL 1972
8 x 30| |150 |1954-1971| 480| TELE-OBJECTIVE, PORRO I
6 x 30| |150 |1955-1961| 410| TELE-OBJECTIVE, PORRO I
7 x 50| |130 |1956-1961| 900| TELE-OBJECTIVE, PORRO I
8 x 30| |150 |1957-1964| 580| MILITARY VERSION, INDIVIDUAL FOCUS, GREEN, PARTIAL ARMORING
6 x 30| |150 |1957-1964| | MILITARY VERSION, INDIVIDUAL FOCUS, GREEN, PARTIAL ARMORING
8 x 50| |130 |1957-1960|1050| PORRO I, AFTER 1961, EYEGLASS WEARER'S MODEL
10 x 50| |130 |1957-1969|1000| PORRO I, 1981, SPECIAL SERIES "25" OF 1000 PIECES
8 x 30B| |110 |1958-1978| 480| PORRO I, EYEGLASS WEARER'S MODEL, AFTER 1968 130m FOV
15 x 60| | 80 |1958- |1260| PORRO I, RUBBER ARMORED VERSION 'GAT' STILL MADE
8 x 30B| | |1958-1968| | PORRO I, MONOCULAR, TELE-OBJECTIVE, FOCUS AT OBJECTIVE AFTER 1964
8 x 50B| |130 |1960-1969|1075| PORRO I
6 x 30| D.F. 6 x 30 B |150 |1961- | | INDIVIDUAL FOCUS, RUBBER ARMORED, 18.3mm EYE RELIEF
7 x 50B| |130 |1961-1969|1000| PORRO I. RUBBER ARMOR
8 x 30B| |130 |1964-1969| 650| FIRST ZEISS DIALYT. SCHMIDT PRISM.
7x50B/GA| |130 |1964- |1175| PORRO I, STILL IN PRODUCTION
8x30B/GA| DIALYT |120 |1967- | | SCHMIDT PRISM
8x56B/GA| DIALYT ZEISS |110 |1968- |1030| ABBE-KONIG ROOF PRISM, STILL MADE AS B/GAT MODEL
8 x 30B| DIALYT-MONO | |1968-1986| | TELE-OBJECTIVE, FOCUS AT OBJECTIVE
10 x 40B| |110 |1968- | 680| SCHMIDT PRISM
8 x 30B| DIALYT |130 |1969- | 550| SCHMIDT PRISM
8 x 20|KLEINFELDSTECHER|120 |1969- | 135| SCHMIDT PRISM, FIBERGLASS BODY, FOLDS TO Z SHAPE
6 x 20|KLEINFELDSTECHER|120 |1971- | 145| SCHMIDT PRISM, ALSO EYEGLASS WEARER'S MODEL

AN "H" IN THE MODEL DESIGNATION INDICATES A PORRO II DESIGN WITH THE OCULAR FIELD LENS CEMENTED TO THE PRISM
D.F. IS THE MILITARY DESIGNATION; ALL D.F GLASSES HAD A LARGE HINGE TENSION KNOB AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HINGE
THROUGH THE 1920'S.
BEGINNING WITH THE TELEX MODEL IN 1907, ALL BINOCULAR HINGES WERE CAST INTEGRAL WITH THE BINOCULAR BODY,
RATHER THAN SCREWED ONTO THE BODY. AT THE SAME TIME, THE PRISM COVER WAS PROVIDED WITH A LIP TO WRAP AROUND
THE BINOCULAR BODY AND THE BINOCULAR WAS MARKED WITH THE MODEL NAME
PRIOR TO 1904, BINOCULARS WERE IDENTIFIED WITH THE CARL ZEISS NAME IN SCRIPT.
AFTER THAT TIME, THE FAMILIAR LENS LOGO WAS SUBSTITUTED.

LOGOS: 1894-1904, ZEISS IN SCRIPT. 1904-1945, CARL ZEISS JENA IN LENS.
1954-1972, CARL ZEISS IN LENS 1972- ZEISS WEST GERMANY, IN SQUARE.

SERIAL NUMBERS:
1900 - 20,000 1904 - 60,000 1907 - 100,000 1911 - 250,000 1914/1915 - 500,000 1917 - 700,000
1919 - 1,000,000 1930 - 1,550,000 1936/1937 - 1,700,000 1940 - 1,980,000 1945 - 2,260,000

[afrikakorps]

пехотный бинокль Вермахта.
по производителю уже сказали - Ernst Leitz.
KF - да, холодойстойкая смазка, но не только для КМ. (To schrott - это отсебятина автора, который составлял этот список). Обозначение ввелось в августе 1942.
Круг - это обозначение другой смазки, более холодойстойкой, ориентировочно ввелось в ноябре 1942.
Такое всречается часто, когда на бинокле два и более обозначений для смазки.
Ориентриуясь по последнему - делаем вывод что бинокль сделанв конце 1942, возможно в начале 1943.

[kubi]

Немецкий военный бинокль, фирмы G.Rodenstock с родным ремешком.
6x30, на Вторую мировую войну.
Расскопан на польских землях.
Оптика не рабочая (не хватает несколько линз, трапеции целые), трещин, сколов на линзах нет.
Присутствуют клейма:
G.Rodenstock Munchen
Dienstglas 159696 Н/6400
Не реставрировался.

Хочу узнать его ценность и причастность(при возможности)
(возможно ли найти хозяина?)

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